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Obnoxious art.... by chrisscalf Obnoxious art.... by chrisscalf
Here's a painting I've grown to hate. Why? because it was just a simple little 1 hour doodle-- not a serious effort what so ever-- and for some reason-- it has sky-rocketed to 1,128,177 views on youtube (as of this posting). But I hate it for a couple of reasons... First-- It's one of those weird tangent pieces that is supposed to depict forced perspective. Some see it, some don't.

But if you poke through the comments, every so often you get a comment about the bottom jaw being TOO BIG. And then you get others who see it as just fine, and can totally see what I saw in my head when I made it... Art is so subjective... The opinions of whether or not this is correct perspective is split right down the middle.

Anyhow... I leave it up cuz of the insane amount of hits it gets... But part of me wants to take it down since it's probably a bad representation of what I really can do.

As far as the jaw goes-- it still looks fine to me. I even did a 3D model of it, and was going to post an animated version of this painting and put it up on youtube, but never finished it. There is however, a WIP vid of it here:
[link]

Part of me does like the debating of the jaw... It truly shows how all of our perspectives in how we see things truly differs from one another. And I mean beyond art even. ;-)

Anyway... Enjoy it. Hate it. Pick it apart.. Whatever... It's fine with me. ;-)

Oh, yeah.. and the original youtube link is here:
[link]
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:iconbertross:
Bertross Featured By Owner Edited Mar 18, 2015
Its a simple fix to enhance the top jaw, Move it over to the left slightly Or enlarge it by 10% and add more details between the nose and eyes so we can see more ridges to give an illusion of how long the snout is. Or Count the teeth you have in the bottom Jaw and top and work out the rest. Only needs a minor tweak. 
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:iconizaakshoelaces:
IzaakShoelaces Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not incorrect if you weren't trying to do a pushed perspective XD
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sanityassassin11 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2014
People are saying the bottom jaw looks too big because they're not thinking of the angle he's in! If he turns to either side, you'd be able to see better that it's properly sized. People don't think of things like that.
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:iconhugocjc:
hugocjc Featured By Owner May 23, 2014

How I sell the design of this dragon?

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:iconmunchchewy0:
munchchewy0 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You can't sell this! 
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:iconkitsuneru:
Kitsuneru Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
rinelisan.deviantart.com/art/R…
someone copied you, and then edited his description to say that it was inspired by you. Thought that you should keep an eye out!
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:iconelviradark:
ElviraDark Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow. This is so amazing!
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:iconkiltic:
kiltic Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2013  Student Digital Artist
So good, man!  
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:iconblackbell93:
Blackbell93 Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2013  Student General Artist
This is fucking amazing! >_<
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:iconconfusedpumpkin:
ConfusedPumpkin Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think this looks fine, but that's probably because I haven't looked at too much of your work yet. I may revise my opinion later on. But as of now, I have to say that the dragon looks great.
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:icongreglakowske:
GregLakowske Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2013  Professional General Artist
This dragon looks great.
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:iconrobertgorske:
RobertGorske Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Professional Artist
Don't take it down! It's a great piece!

With a forshortened snout, it's the lower jaw that gives you the clue as to how long the snout actually is.

I see it all the time looking at foreshortening in photographs. When you aren't used to viewing objects this way, even though it is correct, it looks odd.
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:iconmctalon:
McTalon Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I remember the day I first watched "Speed Painting a Dragon Again", some 3 or 4 years ago. I was awestruck by how incredible your painting was. Now, after seeing more of your work, I have to agree with you when you say that you didn't put any serious effort into making it. It's still a cool looking dragon though!
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:iconmiodeksamson:
MiodekSamson Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
Well, you, sir, may be suprised by the incredible amount of views your "simple little 1 hour doodle" got, but I must say, that it is deinitely my favourite of all your dragons too! :D It just... has got something unique. Aaand, it was my personal motivation to buy myself a tablet and start creating stuff! So I guess, I should thank you! :)
Still hope that some day I can achieve your level of skills!
BTW, the jaw looks just fine, as for me. ;)
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:iconkajenx:
Kajenx Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Artist
Haha, I think the perspective problems you're talking about are because the jaw doesn't seem to be on the same perspective plane as the rest of the face. Like, the way the teeth are facing and the flatness of the fire (it could be shooting sideways out the mouth), and the width of the nose on top all add to the problems. So it's not the bottom jaw specifically, it's just the easiest thing to point out.

The picture isn't terrible or anything, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. To me, the uniform softness is more of a problem, but your more recent pictures are much more sophisticated there. The lighting is probably the best thing about this picture.
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YellowTheWhite Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2012
I may be mistaken but is does this have some revalence to Gothic 2?It really looks like one of the dragons and the location hes in.
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:iconlord-viincha:
Lord-Viincha Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
hello ;D there is someone that steels your [link]
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:iconlord-viincha:
Lord-Viincha Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
art* (stupid me)
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:iconmarshmallowcookiwolf:
I can see it's a little bit blurry..... but I LOVE IT!!!!!!!! <3
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:iconbluefluffydragon:
BlueFluffyDragon Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Used here:

[link]

Hope you don't mind!
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2012
depends.. What is it?
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:iconbluefluffydragon:
BlueFluffyDragon Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Its just a simple layout I was gonna use for my HL page and ytpe in scrollboxes...I gave you credit though.
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:icontherisingsoul:
TheRisingSoul Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Your work inspires me. I've watched your speed drawings on youtube and tried out your style of drawing dragons. (Featured on this page) [link] I love your art, keep up the good work!!
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RedDragonTyr Featured By Owner May 5, 2012
I am amazed of the colors... Your paintings are so great! ... And I hope you don't mind (and hate me) if I tell you that I found this on youtube and tried for myself... the same color scheme AND the same perspective... ^^; And I use it as my avatar here... (of course it looks bad in comparison...) I'm sorry for copying you. But the speedpainting was really inspiring!
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Xandory Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was browsing someone else's favorites and found this. This is seriously amazing. The jaw... *shrugs* Who said the jaws meet to a perfect closed mouth? :P He works and looks scary and fierce as a dragon should. The forced perspective just adds to that. I get an uneasy feeling when it happens, and have this HUGE urge to shift it to the right. Considering the subject of the picture, that's good and just draws more awe.
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hellsing007 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012
someone stole ur art
[link]
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:icondeathnotefan88:
deathnotefan88 Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
very nice
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dczanik Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2011
That's a shame you've grown to hate it. This was the piece that introduced me to your stuff. I loved your technique so much I tried to replicate it to learn. You can see the piece here: [link]
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2011
cool! :-)
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:iconblackdognz:
BLACKDOGNZ Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2011   Digital Artist
love it
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:iconbojanpapic:
BojanPapic Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I saw this on youtube before, I learned very much! Thank You :)
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surfdabbler Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2011
Bottom jaw is fine. The top jaw is too small. :) Har har. But seriously, great work. For a one-hour doodle, it's just amazing!
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:iconheyriel:
Heyriel Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2011  Student Digital Artist
I think it's really amazing for a 1h doodle! (simple but very effective colouring, yay)
But I really need to throw in my 2cents about the jaw (also having a fight on youtube about that right now, yeeesh :roll:): I think that the problem many (and me too) have is not essentially that the lower jaw is too long/large but that it's going away from the head at a weird angle.
To me it seems as though the jaw is too massive at it's base to be sticking to that tiny bit of lower-skull :/
OR the problem is that the jaw seems to be denting (you know, goes straight upwards from the tip and then suddenly you see the base of it, making it twist away to the right side -if that's understanable.)
Either way and tl;dr I think it's not the jaw itself but the point where it's connected to the skull that make it confusing to the viewer xD
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damein1234 Featured By Owner Jun 9, 2011
i understand why you do not like the picture, but i LOVE the rawness of it. just the stright rough style.
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:iconsetanduival:
SetanDuival Featured By Owner May 25, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
;w; Loved it so much I wanted to try to make my version of it... And killed it T-T
[link]
e.o But I think mine isn't too bad for a 14 year old.

Still! I love yours! ^^ Man I wish I could draw like you!
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fastforward1983 Featured By Owner May 23, 2011
sick mad man! incredible painting, wish I could draw just a little like that, just saw this video on youtube and take a I while to come here a search for your artwork and man I just can say you´re fucking nuts, this art is out of this world.
two thumbs up!
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner May 24, 2011
thanks! :-)
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:iconaverroon:
Averroon Featured By Owner May 1, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i like dragons ;-)...very nice!
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zjhentohlauedy Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2011
at first the jaw does seem odd. but as you look at it more it kinda starts feeling comfortable XD

but hey, don't take it down, it's the piece that brought me to your stuff! XD
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:iconryugexu:
Ryugexu Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2011
just thought u should know your art has been stolen: [link]
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2011
thanks.
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:iconryugexu:
Ryugexu Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2011
I noticed he linked to you at his comments... But did he mark your comment as spam???

Please report him if so...
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
No, I didn't coment. I'll leave him alone... This one isn't really an outright theft, as he admitted up front that it's not his work (as well as linking the directly to my original work).

As long as it doesn't show up for sale as prints, etc. he hasn't really over-stepped any boundaries as far as I am concerned.

But having said that, I really appreciate your bringing it to my attention! Thanks so much. ;-)
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:iconryugexu:
Ryugexu Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
Oh okay I was worried that the flagged as spam was your message.
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2011
:-)
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zorih Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2010
Dont know about the jaw problem, but you should be proud of creating something that got this popular as this has been huge inspiration for countless newer artists (including myself) messing around with graphics -> "OOoooh its that easy, i can do it too" (althou after that realism hits in the face and many prolly smashed their tablets on the table corner but.. you know what i mean)

and obviosly drawing itself is great.
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:iconchrisscalf:
chrisscalf Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2010
Thanks for the good points and the kind words.
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:iconyankeestyle94:
Yankeestyle94 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
I totally love this drawing! I saw the video on youtube and was soo amazing to how it was made! :D
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:iconmetalheadedtom:
MetalHeadedTom Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
This is PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!
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:iconcynderrulez:
CynderRulez Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2010
this only took u an hour? O.o insane...
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